Yes Frost and pelligargetic have summed it up.
The early on Pokemon were unimaginative (Taillow, Wurmple, Poochyena, Seedot? COME ON). But the vast majority of them are very strange beasts indeed (come now, what are Lati@s and Regis supposed to be?). You think they're unimaginative; you are mistaken (even though the gen itself was a big flop ).

And ftr, Treecko has one big tail, not two little ones.
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I'm not the only one, Frost. You're flaming while telling me not to flame. reeeeal smooth. :roll:

Go Pelligargetic, one of the few who got it right (although i dont see what abominations you are talking about). Hoenn may very well have been one of my favourite generations (although i like all of them). The pokemon were extremely imaginative, and all the new features like EVs, Natures, Abilities, and everything just made an amazing game better. i waited a very loooooooooooooooong time for the third generation, and it was even more amazing than i thought. And how can you call gardevoir crap? Really?

Frost wasn't flaming you. he was ranting.

Gardevoir is crap.

idk I didn't like the Ralts thing like everyone else did.

I thought Hoenn had the most creative and original Pokemon like , , .

But some were unoriginal like . You could say is unoriginal based on caterpie but it's evo line is totally different.

I thought Kanto was by far the worst.

Not because of originality, lol :roll: , but lack of creativity.

Maybe those "crap" Pokemon were made for not being good in battle, but in Contests. And Contests aren't really bad, they give the player another way of having fun when he gets bored of training. I like to always win the Master Tough Contest with my Aggron and get free Luxury Balls.

And I like the EV and Nature introduction, becoming the best poemon Master shouldn't be something easy IMO.

All Pokemon have to be good in battle IMO That's what I believe because that's the main point of Pokemon, it always has been. Contests are just a waste of space in the Pokemon universe when they could've added a second region like GSC.

This should be a poll. I bet that 95% of psypoke forum users like the ralts evolutions (this includes gallade). Long live the raltses!!!

Heh, idk I just don't like them. They're boring to me and they aren't really strong.

O_o That's like saying Pokemon's unoriginal.




no.

lol

Contest aren't stupid, you need strategy for winning. In fact, they can even be compared with competitive battles because:

-In contest, your Pokemon should have 4 moves with different effects if you want to win, in the same way as physical sweepers in competitive battle need 4 moves with of different types for dealing considerable damage to most Pokemon.

-Also in contests you can make move combos for obtaining extra points, in the same way as Pokemon uses support moves (Swords Dance, Dragon Dance, etc.) before attacking in competitive battle.

-In contest you must predict what the 3 foes will do the next turn and use a move for countering them, and in competitive battle you must also predict what your foe will do in the next turn.

-And finally, in contest you must raise a contest stat of your Pokemon for getting more points, in the same way as a you must EV train you Pokemon for competitive battle.


As you can see, contests shares a lot of similarities with competitive battle, making of them as good as Pokemon battles. But Contests are easier compared with competitive battle because you don't have to look for the best nature, EV train and raise your Pokemon to lvl 100.

And you don't have to be good at Pokemon to win a contest either...

Contests are pretty much only something to do when you get bored of battling. And whereas the RSE contests were cool imo, DP ruined them beyond belief. Yeah, the three judges may make it seem more interesting at first, but they are really just a pain. In fact, contests probably were just created for giving May, and later Dawn, a purpose of following Ash around. Now, if there was a "Contest Master" path in the game, similar to the "Pokemon Master" path you could take, I would be interesyed.

Hoenn is very original, imo. Yeah, its got its uber obvious rehashes - Wurmple, Taillow, Delcatty, Linoone - and its generic "replacements" - Ludicolo/Shiftry : Vileplume/Victribel, Gardevoir : Alakazam, Cradily/Armaldo : Kabutops/Omastar - but it also had possibly the most creative pokemon yet. Metagross, Absol, Zangoose, Castform, Glalie, Nosepass, Claydol - the list goes on and on. Hoenn unimaginative? Methinks not.

Just ftr: Why do you think Corphish and Crawdaunt are like Krabby and Kingler. Krabby and Kingler are crabs. Corphish and Crawdaunt are hybrids of lobsters and crawdads. Very different.

I know, D/P Contests are the worst. I prefer Hoenn Contests.

And for me Corphish/Crawdaunt are original because they aren't based in crabs, but for most people consider them rip offs of Krabby/Kingler

lmao I know you don't actually believe that yourself. I mean really.

Corphish and Crawdaunt are based off of lobsters/crawdads.

And I honestly think that Hoenn, with some exceptions, had very imaginative Pokemon. Most people base their argument on Hoenn not being imaginative on Wurmple and its evolution line, Taillow and Swellow, Skitty and Delcatty, and Zigzagoon and Linoone, and I agree that these Pokemon are not original. However, you also have Absol, the Gardevoir evolution line, Zangoose, Castform, Nosepass, Baltoy and Claydol, the Metagross evolution line, Ludicolo, Shiftry, and more. Some people just choose to ignore these when they say Hoenn was unimaginative, or they write them off as "replacements" of Kanto or Johto Pokemon. Just because they assume the role in the game that another Pokemon previously filled (i.e. Alakazam -> Gardevoir) does not mean they're unoriginal.

Also, Krisp: I'm also fully aware of the "fanbase" Gardevoir has, and I don't like it, but that doesn't mean I don't hate the Pokemon, just the people who worship it like that. (see also: deviantART)

There's my two cents. You may ignore me, correct me, flame me (actually, I'd rather you didn't), or whatever. I just had to say all that.

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Just so you know im not "obsessed" with gardevoir, i just think its a really awesome poke thats really good in battle. And how many pokemon would sell its soul to protect you? As for the contests, i liked them. I liked them alot. I think the Hoenn ones were much better than the dp ones. And just like Darjulok said, they do require a strategy much the same as a battle. And theyre a good diversion.

I was gonna reply earlier to this post, pretty much agreeing with other people who've pretty much said what I wanted to say (Frost and Ghett0), but re-reading the thread with more replies has made me want to put my two cents in as well...

As an olbie, I pretty much had the same kneejerk reaction other people did when I first saw the Hoenn Pokémon. ZOMG, WTF, HOW COULD THEY!?!...but then I actually sat down to play the game. Honestly it is not my first pick for "favorite designs", but Hoenn isn't nearly as bad off as some people say it is.
Yeah you've got your "screw-ups" (wtf Nosepass/Baltoy) and your "replacements" (Feebas/Taillow), but you've also got some pretty awsome ones (Absol/Glalie) and some pretty...well... I'm still not entirely sure how to feel about the Meditite line, but cramming Psychic and Fighting together was like finding out Chinchou was Electric/Water. Putting two opposite Types together is kinda nifty (if a bit brain breaking).

IMHO, Diamond actually has the same feel than Hoenn first did when I saw the PokéDex. There were a LOT of designs I really didn't/don't like, but for some reason people aren't going OMG over it as badly as Hoenn... I dunno, but there are a lot of WTF-mon in Sinnoh as there are in Hoenn. And even Johto and Kanto - seriously? Examples: Sunflora and Ditto. Creepy sunflower and SILLY PUTTY. You're just used to what you've seen more, and if anyone can remember when Johto was first announced, I know there was some screaming about Jigglypuff/Clefairy/Jynx/Electabuzz/Magmar all getting pre-evolutions.

It's all in what you're used to. Now that D/P is out, Hoenn doesn't really make me twitch that badly anymore. I'm sure the next generation will have equal shares of good/bad too.

EV training can go burn in a very bad place though. Contests are annoying, but tolerable. EV training = no. SO MUCH TIME. SO MUCH MONEY. Arggh.