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Rouge- Tyranitar
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:52 pm Posts: 17 Location: USA
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There has been alot of talk over this so i'm just curious. And people please don't be biased.
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Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:43 pm |
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Ghost Writer
Ace Trainer
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:45 pm Posts: 382 Location: Searching for the place all the Abra teleport to. I'm going to crash their party.
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They're all good, and, at least from my point of view, it comes down to how long they can last on the battle field. So, let's break it down in terms of weaknesses.
Blaziken- Weak to Psychic, Flying, Water, and Ground. But being fast, you'd have to have a moveset that covers a lot of types.
Tyranitar-Water, Ground, Steel, Grass, and then a X4 weakness to Fighting. And it's really slow, so a strong fighting move could off this guy in one shot.
Weavile-Fire, Bug, Steel, Rock, and a X4 weakness to Fighting, plus some bad defense. But it makes up for speed, so it's the same story with Blaziken.
Electivire-The only Pokemon out of this lot that only has one weakness, ground, making it an asset. Plus, decent speed and attack. This is my favorite physical sweeper. A lot of people use these.
Infernape-Same story as Blaziken
Gyarados-Flying takes away grass effectiveness, but gains rock and makes Electric more dangerous. Gyarados is much better, especially with Waterfall being physical and then Aqua Tail.
So my vote is Electivire.
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Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:05 pm |
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Physalis
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:07 pm Posts: 76 Location: I'm on the moon!
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Well, I use Blaziken with a lot of success. So my vote goes to him.
Blaziken:Adamant
@Scope Lens
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Swords Dance
Blaze Kick
Sky Uppercut
Substitute
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Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:17 pm |
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ShadowTyranitar
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 5:12 pm Posts: 214 Location: Realgam Tower
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I like both Gyarados and TTar.
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:36 pm |
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The Fluffy Weavile
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:51 pm Posts: 57 Location: Training with my Weavile
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Weavile and Electivire are both excellent sweepers.
Weavile is fast and strong, but lacks defense.
Electivire is strong, but slower than Weavile. (Though this can be rectified with a boost from Motor Drive)
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:44 pm |
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Infernape101
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 195
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Hands down its between Weavile and Electivire honestly because
Electivire only has one weakness to ground and it can eliminate it with an Ice Punch while Weavile can also cover 10 types. The others are great too.
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:59 pm |
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falchion22
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:54 pm Posts: 17
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If u go simply by the typing, u guys have it set, but there is more to the elements. There is team blending, and a great deal depends on the other guys team. Weavile can dominate some teams, but get a hitmonchan with mach punch out and weavile is gone. electivire can be incredibly powerful, especially with that motor drive boost, but if there arent any pokes with an obvious electric weakness in the team, his speed is mediocre and its hard to find the opportunity to switch him in. there are several other notable absenses from the poll, Garchomp, Salamence, Heracross to name a few.
But anyway, my vote goes to gyarados, as discovering a weakness to him forced me to restructure my team.
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:00 pm |
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Infernape101
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 195
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Electivire is good unless you max out speed which I did 317. Also Weavile
can have the Focus Sash and can have another turn to beat the Dragons.
Don't underestimate its power simply because it has 4x weakness.
Gyardos is an exceptional pokemon no doubt about it. I think any pokemon in the list up in the thread has potential. True Garchomp, Heracross, Scizor, Slaking, Metagross, Salamence, Rhyperior all should
be included.***
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:24 pm |
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Rouge- Tyranitar
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:52 pm Posts: 17 Location: USA
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we its true i have left out some choices but the ones that i forgot was metagross,salamence. Everyone else i did'nt consider. but thank you for voting.
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:05 pm |
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Rouge- Tyranitar
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:52 pm Posts: 17 Location: USA
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:16 pm |
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gamer guy
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Wed May 30, 2007 11:57 am Posts: 863 Location: I'm stuck somewhere... Not quite sure where that is though.
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You posted the same thing twice my friend. You might want to delete one because you're also double posting. Even though Scizor isn't up there, I like him the best.
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:10 pm |
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Rambo
Fails at life
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:43 am Posts: 88 Location: Wherever Chuck Norris is.
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Electivire is a VERY good physical sweeper...also a very good mixed and/or special sweeper too in my oppinion. But really we all know who the best physical sweeper is......CHUCK NORRIS!!! sorry for the bad humor lol
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:16 pm |
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Infernape101
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 195
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Chuck Norris rule at sweeping!!!
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:47 pm |
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Ghost Writer
Ace Trainer
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:45 pm Posts: 382 Location: Searching for the place all the Abra teleport to. I'm going to crash their party.
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Stay on topic, please. Chuck Norris is NOT a Pokemon.
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:59 pm |
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Infernape101
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 195
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I was kidding and i already said something on the topic plus i even voted.
Sorry for the Chuck norris thing.
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:02 pm |
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thekiller0703
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:19 pm Posts: 693 Location: On the left side of the street... Take THAT Society!
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Elemental Trainer wrote: Stay on topic, please. Chuck Norris is NOT a Pokemon.
Not true. Chuck Norris has even been featured on a pokemon card*
see http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Norris
It's at the bottom; check out who he evolves from!
*of course this isn't true. You won't believe it unless you're retarded...
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:42 pm |
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Infernape101
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 195
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Thats so cool he's on a pokemon Card!
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:45 pm |
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Death76
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:03 am Posts: 94
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That Chuck Norris thing was too funny...Stage One Jesus lol
But i think Slaking makes a good Physical Sweeper but you have to do alot of switching out to make good use of it
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:08 pm |
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Rouge- Tyranitar
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:52 pm Posts: 17 Location: USA
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hmm it seems like electivire is winning,yes slaking is one of the most strongest sweeper but its ability really cripples it sadly,and everyone should be lucky that it can't learn skill swap.
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:37 am |
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Kizeraa
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:38 pm Posts: 139 Location: so i herd u liek mudkipz?
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Weavile. Fast, strong, evil moveset = pwnage
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:26 am |
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ShadowTyranitar
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 5:12 pm Posts: 214 Location: Realgam Tower
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It sounds biased, but TTar with at least one DD is amazing, and most Pokes wont be able to outspeed it.
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:42 am |
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Infernape101
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 195
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I have to agree Tyranitar becomes a beast. Unless you can strategize
with it. DD works great about twice but once is enough. If Tyranitar faints
the users team is in big trouble unless you have mineral pokemon that won't get hurt from the Sandstream.
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:54 am |
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Rouge- Tyranitar
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:52 pm Posts: 17 Location: USA
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yup tyranitar with DD is a vicious force.
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Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:14 pm |
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Rouge- Tyranitar
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:52 pm Posts: 17 Location: USA
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yup tyranitar with DD is a vicious force.
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Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:34 pm |
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Janissary
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:09 pm Posts: 26
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I saw Gyrados. Immunity to EQ really helps, even with the double electric.
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:47 am |
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