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Paralysis
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Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:58 pm Posts: 44 Location: Atop a cloud
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After beating E4 and obtaining National Dex, I started to train up various Pkmn for possible future Wi-fi battles I may be in. I've got various Physical Sweepers, but not many Special Sweepers. My only Sp. Sweeps are Gengar, Gastrodon, and (may not use much, since it's considered Uber) Latias.
Can anyone please suggest any good Sp.Sweepers I could train up besides the ones just mentioned? Thanks in future
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Infernape101
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 195
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Well you could train a Porygon-Z, Alakazam, Lucario, or Starmie as special sweepers.
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Paralysis
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:58 pm Posts: 44 Location: Atop a cloud
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Infernape101 wrote: Well you could train a Porygon-Z, Alakazam, Gengar, or Lucario as special sweepers.
Well, I, already said I've trained a Gengar up, so there's something you didn't read
Porygon-Z and Alakazam are both good from what I've seen, but I have to find an Abra and a Porygon with reasonable natures, then have to trade them
to evolve them (that's TWICE for Porygon )
But thanks for your ideas ... Anyone else?
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thekiller0703
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Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:19 pm Posts: 693 Location: On the left side of the street... Take THAT Society!
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Did you say Gastrodon as a SWEEPER?
Basically, those are the most OU special sweepers in the game... Infernape will work well too, Especially as a mixed sweeper.
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Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:35 pm |
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Sion9
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 pm Posts: 1241
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Paralysis wrote: Infernape101 wrote: Well you could train a Porygon-Z, Alakazam, Gengar, or Lucario as special sweepers.
Well, I, already said I've trained a Gengar up, so there's something you didn't read
Porygon-Z and Alakazam are both good from what I've seen, but I have to find an Abra and a Porygon with reasonable natures, then have to trade them
to evolve them (that's TWICE for Porygon )
apparently, according to this topic, you don't. But if you need help with natures, try using the Everstone trick
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Paralysis
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Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:58 pm Posts: 44 Location: Atop a cloud
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Sion9 wrote: Paralysis wrote: Infernape101 wrote: Well you could train a Porygon-Z, Alakazam, Gengar, or Lucario as special sweepers.
Well, I, already said I've trained a Gengar up, so there's something you didn't read
Porygon-Z and Alakazam are both good from what I've seen, but I have to find an Abra and a Porygon with reasonable natures, then have to trade them
to evolve them (that's TWICE for Porygon )
apparently, according to this topic, you don't. But if you need help with natures, try using the Everstone trick
Everstone Trick?
Would anyone who knows it please explain how this trick is done please?
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thekiller0703
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Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:19 pm Posts: 693 Location: On the left side of the street... Take THAT Society!
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Basically not a trick, give an everstone to the mommy and there's a 50% chance the baby will have the same nature as it.
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Paralysis
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Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:58 pm Posts: 44 Location: Atop a cloud
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Ahh, I see. Thanks for the info.
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Mr.Chaos
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:37 pm Posts: 151 Location: In a castle fighting zombies
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Ampharos is a good special sweeper too.
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froggy_00
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Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:46 am Posts: 114 Location: Trying to find a shiny with the Pokeradar
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A good Special sweeper would be Salamence. But there are plenty of other PKMN you could use instead.
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Da best
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Its all up 2 U Gengar a spec sweeper bt its spec def is 75 base N it can b
killed by psychic attacks wen its damn ghost type
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zoso2220
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:07 pm Posts: 13
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you could try togekiss, which has a pretty nasty spec. att, and a good moveset.
Togekiss @ Kings rock
Timid | Serene Grace
252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
~Shadow ball
~Air Slash (this is like a 60 [+kings rock] percent flinch rate)
~Aura Sphere
~Roost
also has a good spec def. which always helps
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luxray strike
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Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:10 pm Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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You could also have charizard, its spec. attack is high aswell
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Uros
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Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:37 pm Posts: 23 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Starmie, porygon z, are real good.
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silent_shadow
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Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:13 pm Posts: 1
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Starmie and mewtwo would be good
cuz they have good spd and spt atk so they could beat da foe w/out being damage.
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Eldred Fireax
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Well, Mewtwo is an uber, so I don't know if that would count.
Starmie, Porygon-Z, and Espeon would be three of my suggestions. Starmie has high speed, Porygon-Z has high Sp. Atk, and Espeon has a mix between the two, though perhaps not the best of movepools. I would recommend any of them.
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Sion9
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silent_shadow wrote: Starmie and mewtwo would be good
cuz they have good spd and spt atk so they could beat da foe w/out being damage.
While Starmie has good Spd, it's SpA is low compared to Alakazam and Porygon-Z. Mewtwo is uber, and only useful on an uber team.
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ericmeckley
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Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:12 pm Posts: 50
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most good ones were mentioned already but why not try houndoom?
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Pillage
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Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:01 pm Posts: 163 Location: Kanto/Johto
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lol... Gastradon. You have to be joking.
Do either Starmie or Porygon-Z. I suggest Porygon-Z since he learns all atributes and he has no weaknesses since he's of the Normal type. Don't listen to the Lucario kids.
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Pillage
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ericmeckley wrote: most good ones were mentioned already but why not try houndoom?
OhZ teh NoeZ. Even though he's one of my favorite Pokemon he is not that good.
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dunsparce
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He's not that bad. Flash fire is always fun to use and he makes a decent (not the best though) mixed sweeper.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:48 pm |
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Shadock
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l use Charizard, Lucario and plan to use Gardevoir and Walrein l think they are good special sweepers.(lf you use them all together)
Charizard also doesnt have to learn a physical move, cause it has Air Slash that is special and also this team owns when you make double battles(Tower or else)Lucario also learn much special moves and has a good special attack. Gardevoir sucks with physical anyway and can learn thunderbolt, this lowers your need of an electric pkmn and Walrein...lts my lucky pokemon Also the ability(other than thick fat) heals it in hail. Use hail and give it leftovers, You wont lose health lol.lts also water ice so no weak against fire.Just the prob is its speed...
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Wilesthegreat
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froggy_00 wrote: A good Special sweeper would be Salamence. But there are plenty of other PKMN you could use instead.
-Froggy
lol, use him
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Shadow Force
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Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:40 pm Posts: 15
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Well this is what I do:
Gengar @ Focus Sash
Modest 255 Sp.Atk, 255 Spd
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Destiny Bond
Gengar would most likely go first and attack, if you get hit by psychic or some other super effective you would at least survive with 1 HP thanks to focus sash. If you know your first move did enough damage to KO then use it again if not go straight Destiny Bond. If you KO'd the the pokemon then all you have to do is use Destiny Bond on the next pokemon and you've taken care of 2 pokemon already or if you think you can, you could KO the pokemon if you have its weakness and then use Destiny Bond on the 3rd and so you could go on.
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Shadock
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Ehh l dont think Gengar can learn Thunderbolt by TM. l tried... So how?
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