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projectilepiss
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:51 am Posts: 9
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Hiya!
I'm trying to round up a pretty good team (of course)
So far I have decided on:
- Milotic
- Salamence
- Magnezone
- Gallade
- Leafeon
But I'm stuck on whether to get a Houndoom or a Magcargo...
Could you let me know what you think please?
Any ideas/criticisms about my team are welcome, I'm still a bit of a novice you see!
thanks guys!
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:57 am |
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The Jonatron
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:42 pm Posts: 253
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adds the movesets, or note a little bit on your stratygy. Each guy should have a clear objective.
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:38 am |
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Sion9
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 pm Posts: 1241
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Houndoom is generally better than Magcargo - Magcargo is slow, and has 2 double weaknesses to common attack types (Ground, Water).
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:29 pm |
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yanmafan
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:32 am Posts: 74 Location: Michigan
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I agree that houndoom is better, but i would never put a fire type on my team. If u must though u could try:
houndoom with modest nature with Heat rock (or whatever the sunny day rock is called)
sunny day
solarbeam
Flamethrower
Dark Pulse
Evs spec. att@252 and Speed @252
Switch Houndoom in if you think the opponent will use a fire move so u can activate flash fire and hopefully they will switch or not have a super effective attack so u can use sunny day.
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:14 pm |
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Shiny_Tyranitar
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:06 am Posts: 36 Location: In a sandstorm.....AHHHH! MY EYES!!!!
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It's pretty obvious that Houndoom is the best choice here. But I'm not a fan of fire types. There's not much they can do.
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:23 pm |
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Alkhazor
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:10 pm Posts: 421 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow.
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Bellyzard WILL come for you, fire haters...
houndoom over magcargo, but unless the team is centered around sunny day houndooms to fragile to set up.
1st turn, houndoom sets up with sunny day, opponent kills
done deal. this set below is infinitely better.
Overheat
dark pulse
sludge bomb
pursuit
@ choice scarf
alternatively, you could go with the ever original nasty plot set
Nasty plot
dark pulse
flamethrower
substitute
@ salac
I think thats the new standard, cause sunnydoom sucks.
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:21 pm |
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MissingNo_Is_My_Friend
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:17 am Posts: 360 Location: Somewhere between Life and Afterlife
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YUCK!! I can't believe anybody was even thinking of using a Magcargo in battle.
Houndoom is cool looking, but that's as far as it goes.
If you're looking for a fire type, I'd suggest forgetting that because Fire's strengths (Bug, Ice, Grass) could easily be covered by your team.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:52 am |
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projectilepiss
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:51 am Posts: 9
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oh, lots of people have said not to have a fire type at all.
see this is where my problems are, i've always thought fire, water and grass were a must (probably because the starters are always those types).
so with a team of milotic, gallade, salamence, leafeon and magnezone what type(s) do you think I should have?
I quite like the idea of having a dark...
any ideas?
thanks guys!
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:52 am |
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yanmafan
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:32 am Posts: 74 Location: Michigan
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go with weavile then.
Adamant or jolly with choice scarf
Evs maxed in speed and attack
Ice punch
Night Slash
pursuit
Brick break
check the thread called all attack weavile moveset for some ideas on weavile
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:38 am |
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Mecha Deoxys
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:51 pm Posts: 123 Location: In a lake of LCL.
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- Milotic - If you are going to have any pokemon with sunnyday remove it.
or have a half and half team.
- Salamence-Salaspecs-Flamethrower/Hydro pump or physical sweeper fire fang
- Magnezone-EVs in Hp and Special attack, Substitute and Thunder wave will take reduced damage from fire in rain.
- Gallade Hypnosis+Focus punch- No real weather effects
- Leafeon- Works with sunny day
-Houndoom- sunny day and solar beam
Do not use macargo, two 4x weaknesses to common types.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:09 pm |
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Uros
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:37 pm Posts: 23 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Houndoom is better because magcargo is slower and he has more special attack.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:50 pm |
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Infernape101
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 195
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Definitely Houndoom, Nasty Plot + Flamethrower/Dark Pulse= good Sp. Atk.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:09 pm |
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Omniscient
Fails at life
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:40 pm Posts: 32 Location: Bronx, NY
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Alkhazor wrote: Bellyzard WILL come for you, fire haters...
lol, oh no.
I say , I just use to breed.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:12 pm |
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Marilyn_Manson
Fails at life
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:06 pm Posts: 25 Location: Alabama USA
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uhm well if i were you i would use houndoom becuase macgaro is really slow for one and houndoom is faster plus houndoom is part dark i think so he should also be able to take out psychic types and macgargo is effect 2x against water types so i would choose Houndoom so..HOUND DOOM FTW !
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:42 pm |
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Kizeraa
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:38 pm Posts: 139 Location: so i herd u liek mudkipz?
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is full of fail and 4x weaknesses to Surf and EQ.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:52 pm |
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Ghett0
Fails at life
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:23 pm Posts: 546 Location: Isn't my avatar just so cute! :D
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Special sweeper Houndoom is good, and to Alkhazor : I was able to get one hundred wins in battle tower with this, so don't panic. Nobody is going to die.
@ Quick Claw
Modest | Flash Fire
EVs : 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd,
Nasty Plot
Sunny Day
Fire Blast/OverHeat
Solar Beam
Nasty Plot, then sunny day, upping the power of fire and Solarbeam, and SolarBEam now dosen't have charge up turn, meaning Houndoom dosen't have to switch against water types anymore. Should be able to sweep atleast 2-3 pokes before it's KOd. Not so good for double battles, though.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:37 pm |
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Ghett0
Fails at life
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:23 pm Posts: 546 Location: Isn't my avatar just so cute! :D
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Special sweeper Houndoom is good, and to Alkhazor : I was able to get one hundred wins in battle tower with this, so don't panic. Nobody is going to die.
@ Quick Claw
Modest | Flash Fire
EVs : 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd,
Nasty Plot
Sunny Day
Fire Blast/OverHeat
Solar Beam
Nasty Plot, then sunny day, upping the power of fire and Solarbeam, and SolarBEam now dosen't have charge up turn, meaning Houndoom dosen't have to switch against water types anymore. Should be able to sweep atleast 2-3 pokes before it's KOd. Not so good for double battles, though.
Last edited by Ghett0 on Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:39 pm |
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Omniscient
Fails at life
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:40 pm Posts: 32 Location: Bronx, NY
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Ghett0 wrote: Special sweeper Houndoom is good, and to Alkhazor : I was able to get one hundred wins in battle tower with this, so don't panic. Nobody is going to die.
I sincerely doubt this. 100 wins in the Battle Tower with a Houndoom on your team? Questionable.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:52 pm |
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Eldred Fireax
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:19 am Posts: 108 Location: Yes
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That's not a bad moveset, actually. Focus Band, however, is questionable. I don't find it to be very reliable, so you're better off with Shell Bell or Leftovers.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:54 pm |
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thekiller0703
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:19 pm Posts: 693 Location: On the left side of the street... Take THAT Society!
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Oh noez! The kittenz die because of fire blast and Ghett0's ignorance!
You expect the focus band to last for you to use nasty plot, sunny day AND a move?
NO
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:00 pm |
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Eldred Fireax
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:19 am Posts: 108 Location: Yes
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Oh, I thought it said Flamethrower. >_>
Also, a Dark Pulse is fine too.
Dark Pulse
Sunny Day
Flamethrower
Solarbeam
Hmm?
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:02 pm |
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Ghett0
Fails at life
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:23 pm Posts: 546 Location: Isn't my avatar just so cute! :D
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Actually, Fire Blast is better for the 3on3s in the battle tower.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:51 pm |
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dunsparce
Pokemon Master
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:24 am Posts: 1152 Location: IN THE EMOTIONLESS TRAWLING FERVOR'S OF MY INSANE MIND.
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Leafeon? WTF? Grass are no-noez.
flamethrower=fail
Blizerd+hail=fail
Sludge bomb=fail
Air slash=fail
Bug buzz=fail
Not good idea. Like your other choices though .
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:54 pm |
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Eldred Fireax
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:19 am Posts: 108 Location: Yes
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Where did that come from?
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:00 pm |
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dunsparce
Pokemon Master
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:24 am Posts: 1152 Location: IN THE EMOTIONLESS TRAWLING FERVOR'S OF MY INSANE MIND.
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projectilepiss wrote: Hiya!
I'm trying to round up a pretty good team (of course)
So far I have decided on:
- Milotic
- Salamence
- Magnezone
- Gallade
- Leafeon
But I'm stuck on whether to get a Houndoom or a Magcargo...
Could you let me know what you think please?
Any ideas/criticisms about my team are welcome, I'm still a bit of a novice you see!
thanks guys!
BING
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