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That one guy wrote:
Oh noez! The kittenz die because of fire blast and Ghett0's ignorance!

You expect the focus band to last for you to use nasty plot, sunny day AND a move?

NO


The focus band is for the speedy water types out there. 'K? 'K.

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Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:26 pm
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To Ghett0:focus band sucks because of its incredibly low activaion rate. It almost never works. You might as well give it quick claw.

technically Im not a rater yet, but I hast the fullest confidence I shall in about a day or two (or whenever firestarter/tiger10X logs in) So I shalt giveth movesets for your entire team-eth (dangit dunsparce, your shop has me talking weird)


Milotic @ leftovers
bold|Marvel scale
252 def 129 hp 129 sp atk
Surf
Ice beam
recover
Hypnosis

That be ith a wondrous physical wall that shalt strike the utmost phear unto your opposition|Theres nothing like a bulky water!

Salamence @ choice specs/Choice band
modest/adamant
4HP 252 sp ATk 252 spd/4 hp 252 atk 252 spd
draco meteor/dragon claw
dragon pulse/earthquake
hydro pump/stone edge
fire blast

Specsmence/bandmence
special sweeper/physical sweeper
overrated/classic salamence

Magnezone @ leftovers
Modest|magnet pull
129 HP 129 SPd 252 SP atk
Thunderbolt
HP ice/grass/explosion
substitute
thunderwave

Magnezone hath been bequeathed the power to resist thealmighty boltbeam, and hath defenses to kill a horse. Though art luck to hath been bequeathed a magnezone| subwave to increase speed, switch in on porygon Z/starmie/insert boltbeamer here. try for HPice. use explosion as a backup.

Gallade @ choice scarf
adamant/jolly
252 spd 252 atk 4 hp
psycho cut
leaf blade
close combat
night slash

Gallade hath been cursed with defences lower than thine weakling rampardos, but hath speed to overcome!|send it out when a pokemon on your team dies, outspeed the opponent with choice scarf, kill opponent, then switch into another pokemon.

Blissey @ leftovers
bold|natural cure
252 sp def 252 Hp 4 def
Thunder wave
softboiled
aromatherapy
siesmic toss

Thine bane eth my existence, though foul blissey! It makes quite thy remarkable demon, resisting special attacks and all, and is fitting in your team more so then leafeon. However if leafeon is your decision...|this makes a great replacement for leafeon, but Ill do leafeon next Just in Case.

Leafeon @ leftovers
jolly
129atk 252 spd 129hp
leaf blade
swords dance
baton pass
roar

Though leafeon art weak, but phear not, for leafeon hath swords and a might roar, to scare away Phazers|lets hope it survives...if it does you can pass on swords dances, and if you run into a Phazer roar it away. It has pretty good speed to. an alternate to roar is grasswhistle, but that only works about half the time.

Based on the above movesets, you have teh phail to blissey. Your best bet is to turn leafeon into blissey and throw in weavile. Ill give you a set for weavile and houndoom. Ill also throw in a decent magcargo moveset, just so you can see it.

Weavile @ choice band
jolly
252 atk 252 spd 4 hp
ice punch
night slash
brick break (this kills blissey)
swords dance/pursuit

If your bent on fire, heres houndoom again.

Houndoom @ life orb/choice scarf/salac
timid
252 spd 252 sp atk 4 hp
nasty plot/overheat
dark pulse
flamethrower
sludge bomb/substitute

choice scarf with sludge bomb and overheat and salac with substitute

Magcargo @ leftovers
bold
252 HP 252 def 2 sp atk
reflect
light screen
stealth rock
lava plume

That thar is tha best dang moveset this side uv thu misisispi.
That us quite possibly one of the best magcargo movesets.

Mae sure you dont throw it in against something that can do neutral damage to magcargo. Hes actually decent utility. This is about the best moveset you can squeeze out of him.

Hope I helped a little!

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Ok, quick claw added. Also, for 6 on 6 battles replace Fire Blast with Flamethrower.

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If your going to use a focus item use focus sash so you dont get OHKO'd. Focus Band rarely works.

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Alkhazor wrote:
So I shalt giveth movesets for your entire team-eth (dangit dunsparce, your shop has me talking weird)

That thar is tha best dang moveset this side uv thu misisispi.
That us quite possibly one of the best magcargo movesets.

Mae sure you dont throw it in against something that can do neutral damage to magcargo. Hes actually decent utility. This is about the best moveset you can squeeze out of him.

Hope I helped a little!


LOL-eth :lol: . Thas be not howst I speak.

Leafeon must perish from your team, it be the worst evee manifistation after the horror oth Glaceon. Doth must use Umbereon or if thy wishes to be original then thee must take control of the speeding sweeper power of Jolteon.

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Ghett0 wrote:
Ok, quick claw added. Also, for 6 on 6 battles replace Fire Blast with Flamethrower.

Try again, Ghett0.

Al, they never even responded to me... :cry:

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Ghett0 wrote:
Special sweeper Houndoom is good, and to Alkhazor : I was able to get one hundred wins in battle tower with this, so don't panic. Nobody is going to die.


{houndoom} @ Quick Claw
Modest | Flash Fire
EVs : 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd,

Nasty Plot
Sunny Day
Fire Blast/OverHeat
Solar Beam

Nasty Plot, then sunny day, upping the power of fire and Solarbeam, and SolarBEam now dosen't have charge up turn, meaning Houndoom dosen't have to switch against water types anymore. Should be able to sweep atleast 2-3 pokes before it's KOd. Not so good for double battles, though.


no, no, no. first of all houndoom is not that fast on wifi, where 100 base power speed often is not enough. (and houndoom doesnt even have that). secondly, quick claw has a 10 percent chance of working to my knowlege, which is not good at all. so against a fast poke, youd have to survive 3 hits. which wont happen btw. sunny day with another support poke if you want to have a fighting chance, and forget about being able to use nast plot.


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