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Which is better? Bellomence or Tyragia?
Bellomence 56%  56%  [ 5 ]
Tyragia 44%  44%  [ 4 ]
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Can someone please help me?

I'm going to battle my
Brother
on a 2 on 2 battle before i make a step to the Resort Area
I don't know what Pokemon i'm going to face.

I paired up some of my ultimate Pokemon and they turned out great!!!

so ,what shall i use?



A.) Bellomence





Bellossom Calm @ Leftovers

252 Sp. Atk, 210 Spd, 48 Sp. Def

Hp Fire
Synthesis
Solarbeam
Sludge Bomb




Salamence Jolly @ Heat Rock

252 Atk, 210 Spd, 48 Sp. Def

Sunny Day
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang
Crunch






My tactic is use SUNNY DAY then fire out all the bombs they have
Bellossom's Hidden Power will become stronger....
Bellossom gets faster......
Solabeam won't waste turn.....
Synthesis will be cunning......
Intimidate the Physical Sweepers......(not actually the effect of Sunny Day)
Additional intensifying to Salamence's Fire fang.....






B.) Tyragia





Tyranitar Adamant @ King's Rock

252 Atk, 210 Spd, 48 Sp. Def

Crunch
Dragon Dance
Stone Edge
Earthquake





Lugia Calm @ Sky Plate

252 Sp. Atk, 105 Spd, 105 Sp. Def, 48 Def

Calm Mind
Hydro Pump
Psychic
Aeroblast





The ROLE of this two is Swipe as many Pokemon as they can
before Lugia will be killed by the Sand Stream...
Calm Mind and Dragon Dance At the first turn......
Earthquake won't affect Lugia.....
Tyranitar can flinch the the ones who survive.....(low rate)
Aeroblast will be like a 1HKO move......










Please help me to INTENSIFY,CORRECT,SUGGEST about these pairs...

and vote which is BETTER.....


Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:50 am
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a poke w/ an ice type attk will rip appart ur 1st team

the second has a legend which makes it super cheap

never use those x1.1 dmg things
for lugia id make it a pp waster w/ recover, calm mind, reflect, aeroblast, maybe even thunderwave in there over reflect
a focus blasting gengar would roll this team though

got for bronzong/claydol

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Bellomence forever!

Just because I hate lugia. boltbeamers do rip through it though...but you said you were battling your brother? What pokemon do you think he will have? Older or younger? Pokemon genious, or nubsauce?

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Well since ubers are a whole 'nother league, I'd go with Bellomence.

Ice types are somewhat a problem, as said before.


Also, Last _Redeemer, those type-boosting items aren't always crap. Certain Pokemon find use for them, like Raindra for example. And it's 1.2x boost, not 1.1x.

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Ice types huh........
If they're PURE Ice types

I'd smash them up with Hp or Fire Fang.....
I'd just be aggressive to those whom i know can ice beam....



My brother usually challenges me to battle him everytime i step on a new town,cities,etc.

I can't say no to his challenge.....


Everytime we Battle he always use Manaphy and a Phione.....
they can learn variety of moves so even at a disadvantage

I always end up losing.......



Because of that.......

me, myself prefer

BELLOMENCE......


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welcomkanna wrote:
Ice types huh........
If they're PURE Ice types

I'd smash them up with Hp or Fire Fang.....
I'd just be aggressive to those whom i know can ice beam....

you'd likely face bulky waters, which can take several hits, or possibly special sweepers like Mewtwo (if playing in ubers). Watch out also for physical sweepers using Ice Punch such as Weavile/Electivire.

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Yoshipal13 wrote:
Also, Last _Redeemer, those type-boosting items aren't always crap. Certain Pokemon find use for them, like Raindra for example. And it's 1.2x boost, not 1.1x.
well 1.2x is good
Raindra i assume is:
{Kingdra}
Rain Dance
Surf
Ice Beam
Dragon Pulse???

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Close. Waterfall over Ice Beam.

He's a mixed sweeper.

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welcomkanna wrote:
Ice types huh........
If they're PURE Ice types

I'd smash them up with Hp or Fire Fang.....
I'd just be aggressive to those whom i know can ice beam....



My brother usually challenges me to battle him everytime i step on a new town,cities,etc.

I can't say no to his challenge.....


Everytime we Battle he always use Manaphy and a Phione.....
they can learn variety of moves so even at a disadvantage

I always end up losing.......



Because of that.......

me, myself prefer

BELLOMENCE......


Try Genger with giga drain or energy ball. If you cant get one, Bellossom. Watch out for hydro resting. Hope I help :P

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Anything with TTar won't do good. Bellomance is really awsome :D .

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Yoshipal13 wrote:


Also, Last _Redeemer, those type-boosting items aren't always crap. Certain Pokemon find use for them, like Raindra for example. And it's 1.2x boost, not 1.1x.


Im pretty sure that plates are 1.3x and normal items are 1.2x. like 95 percent sure. and as to welcomekanna, you will also get destroyed by a fire type. i see nothing on that team to counter one, only to make them stronger. as to the second team, you have two ubers, one of them being legendary, so you're not going to be able to use it hardly anywhere. and if you think ttar has the speed to flinch, i hate to say it but it's just not gonna happen.


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[quote="yanmafan"]you will also get destroyed by a fire type. i see nothing on that team to counter one, only to make them stronger.
good point. You may want Rock Slide / Earthquake on Salamence (EQ is stronger, but damages Bellossom...it's NVE though. If you had Protect > Sludge Bomb...)

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Bellomence. And your Brother has one flaw:


Manphy is uber, but a whole wacck of pokes are faster.

Two of which pwn them... Scepy and Jolty.


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id train a dancing raichu and blast that manaphy
dont worry about phione

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I seem to be a little confused.

How can you build such devious Pokemon (complete with natures, EVs, and movesets) and lose all the time to someone who uses Manaphy and Phione?


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yeah... a fast grass or electric type (plenty of the latter) and as forementioned, Scepcile or Jolteon will Pwn them...

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Not True....... :(

I've tried a {jolteon} Jolteon with maxed EV's in Sp. Atk. and Speed (the rest in Sp. Def) but got swiped by Fling ( Iron Ball )

Not sure about {sceptile} Sceptile but I'm sure Ice Beam will be present



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