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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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Has anyone thought about a Porygon-Z with a Tri-Attack, Choice Specs and a Modest Nature with Adapatability, and STAB now time for the Maths....
Tri Attack- base 90 * 3(Adapt+STAB)=270 base
270*2.6=702 base(Specs+Modest nature)
702 base+405(max sp atk at LV100)
That would make a high base power right, that almost nothing could survive. The stargey would be to BP and subsuite to Porgon-Z and then fire away.
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Last edited by Roar Of Time on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:25 am |
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4ever_bug_catcher
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.
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adaptability takes in place of the STAB bonus (instead of x1.5 for the usual STAB, it's x2)
other than that, there's nothing new here. most would run tri attack with specs instead of hyper beam (i hope i just didn't start a war )
also, i think you would want BPed speed instead of substitute.
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:31 am |
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Gnaaye
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:22 am Posts: 815
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LACK OF MATHS.
75 x 2 = 150 (Adaptability raises the STAB to x2 you ilitterate)
150 x 1,5 = 225 (Specs)
405 Max SA with Modest (Nature effects the stat not the BP YOU TARD)
=225 Base Power + 405 SA
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:35 am |
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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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Gnaaye wrote: LACK OF MATHS.
75 x 2 = 150 (Adaptability raises the STAB to x2 you ilitterate)
150 x 1,5 = 225 (Specs)
405 Max SA with Modest (Nature effects the stat not the BP YOU TARD)
=225 Base Power + 405 SA
Did I say that the BP affects the stats, did I?
Oh yes, and thanks for that note of adapapbility, but lets say....if you BPed CM to Porygon with a subsuite the Porygon could Nasty Plot then sweep without Choice Specs, wouldn't that work?
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:47 am |
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4ever_bug_catcher
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Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.
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remember that it is Porygon-Z's speed that is lacking, not it's special attack. BPing agility to a nasty plot Porygon-Z could work, or BPing calm mind/nasty plot to an Agiligon-Z would work in the later stages of the battle
Quote: Did I say that the BP affects the stats, did I?
your math basically stated that...
Quote: 270*2.6=702 base(Specs+Modest nature)
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:00 am |
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Roar Of Time
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Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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4ever_bug_catcher wrote: remember that it is Porygon-Z's speed that is lacking, not it's special attack. BPing agility to a nasty plot Porygon-Z could work, or BPing calm mind/nasty plot to an Agiligon-Z would work in the later stages of the battle
Quote: Did I say that the BP affects the stats, did I?
your math basically stated that...
Quote: 270*2.6=702 base(Specs+Modest nature)
Hehe, I guess that's how bad my Math is
Sorry about that, I didn't realise
EDIT:- the 2.6 came from the Specs (1.5) and the nature(1.1)
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:03 am |
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Bumi
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Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:25 pm Posts: 77
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More people prefer to use the nasty plot one (and its obvius why). Batton passing some speed (It doesn't even needs to be an agility) is a great idea, since base 90 is not really low, you become faster than most things with speed passed.
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:22 am |
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FaceLess
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Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:59 pm Posts: 399
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Gnaaye wrote: LACK OF MATHS.
75 x 2 = 150 (Adaptability raises the STAB to x2 you ilitterate)
150 x 1,5 = 225 (Specs)
405 Max SA with Modest (Nature effects the stat not the BP YOU TARD)
=225 Base Power + 405 SA Well, Specs affects the stat not the bp too. Though it matters little since they are multiplied by each other so early on in calculation.
And tri attack is base 80 isnt it?
Oh and you don't add base power to the attacking stat, you multiply it. This is later balanced out by some division.
Roar Of Time wrote: EDIT:- the 2.6 came from the Specs (1.5) and the nature(1.1) When combining terms that are multiplied in a simple equation like that, you multiply them together. You added addition to a multiplication problem.
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:45 pm |
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DNA
Trivia Champion
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 3170 Location: clegavel
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And therefore, the true math would be:
80 BP x2 = 160 (Adaptability converts STAB to x2)
160 x1.5 = 240 (Specs)
+405 Max SA with Modest nature
= hot death.
1.5 * 1.1 = 1.65.
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Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:10 pm |
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Roar Of Time
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Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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How about a Hyper beam version, first you get another poke to use subby then BP the subsuite, then the Porygon could use Hyper Beam behind a subby and the subby with luck, it will hold until Porygon gets recharged.
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Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:35 pm |
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Gnaaye
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Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:22 am Posts: 815
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That's old news. Ninjask/Pory-Z is a good combo.
Jask protects for the Speed Boosti then BPs a Sub to Pory-Z.
-Z Nasty Plots until the sub is broken. Nasty Plot Life Orb Hyper Beam OHKOS BLISSEY.
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:28 am |
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FaceLess
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Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:59 pm Posts: 399
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Gnaaye wrote: That's old news. Ninjask/Pory-Z is a good combo.
Jask protects for the Speed Boosti then BPs a Sub to Pory-Z.
-Z Nasty Plots until the sub is broken. Nasty Plot Life Orb Hyper Beam OHKOS BLISSEY. Would the strategy work better if you switched immediately?
Since people switch in their whirlwinder/roar and stop ninjask easy, unless you've switched to the high special attack bolt beamer with downloaded sp attack boost while they are switching in to counter you.
That's interesting, making them think twice about countering ninjask is something that might make him finally useful on a team.
Neither stab nor specs affects base power, though with specs this is kinda negligible since they get multiplied together, but stab Genuinely comes in much later in calculation which has a different result.
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:05 pm |
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