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pokemonfan2012
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:09 pm Posts: 7
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i'm tarining a dexoys so what is the best from to use or traning
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:42 pm |
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Emin Jofit
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Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:47 am Posts: 459 Location: Anywhere, everywhere, and nowhere.
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First off, please proof-read posts before submitting. Please and thank you.
Second, that depends entirely on what your team needs; there's no forme that's necessarily better than the others. If your team has good tanks and fast Pokemon so all you really need is an all-out attacker, then Attack Forme is best. If you're in need of a speedy monster who can get in some quick hits before retreating/fainting then Speed Forme is the way to go. If you don't have a wall of anysort or your team is just lacking defensively, go with the Defense Forme. If you don't need anything specific and you just want it on your team for the sake of having a Deoxys to show off, you can't go wrong with the well-balanced Normal Forme.
If you're just going from an aesthetics perspective, personally I like the Speed Forme and Defense Forme. Speed just has that sleek and stylish look, but the Defense Forme just looks powerful. Attack Forme's got a certain charm to it as well with the four tentacles of doom and destruction, and Normal Forme just gives you the whole Deoxys look, you know? Like that's what he's supposed to look like.
In summation, the choice depends on what else your team needs and for further suggestions, post your team with their battling roles and ask your question here. Hope this helps.
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:20 am |
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Electrike!
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:29 pm Posts: 123 Location: What, you want directions or something?
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Nice typos.
Attack forme has the highest attack stats but is extremely fragile. I've used one on PBR and it kept getting killed by Luxio. Defense forme has great defenses but weak attacking stats. Normal forme is outclassed in every way by Attack forme. Speed forme outspeeds nearly everything.
Really, it depends what you want Deoxys to do.
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:50 am |
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pokemon_god
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 6:34 am Posts: 553
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I say Speed Forme because all of it's stats are evened out. Unlike Attack and Defence. Attack and Defence are really good, but I say Speed Forme.
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Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:11 am |
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empoleon99
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Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:40 am Posts: 271 Location: NO IDEA!!!!!
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For me it has gotta be the speed forme because it has decent speed (which i love) and the other stats are evend out unlike the other formes that have a certain "Bad" stat
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Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:57 am |
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Sion9
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Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 pm Posts: 1241
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Emin Jofit wrote: If you don't need anything specific and you just want it on your team for the sake of having a Deoxys to show off, you can't go wrong with the well-balanced Normal Forme.
The Speed form is more balanced than the Normal form, the Normal form is still very attack oriented. I would go with the Attack form - the Normal Form doesn't have a huge amount of defense for its reduction in attack. Of course, if your Deoxys has a huge level advantage for in-game, then perhaps that extra defense may be useful...but not in competitive play.
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Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:08 pm |
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Ryu
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Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:53 pm Posts: 174 Location: California,Baldwin Park?U.S.A?
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Depends on your strategy...Attack Deoxys can and most likely the best revenge killer out there.
Defense Deoxys is supreme in its Defense?pretty obvious?but it doesn't run A decent Base HP stat.Cosmic power Strategy is great but High-Criticals negate this technique.
Speed forme will negate almost all choice scarf users,and of course is the fastest...but really is meant to set up on a foe with spike,toxic,etc,etc..
Balance Deoxys is not worth trying to use.It MIGHT survive a hit attack Deoxys couldn't take but its not a good revenge killer like its latter.
Me personally I would run a Attack Deoxys with max attack,[31 iv attack,adamant nature,252 ev attack]plus max speed iv and evs..why?its amazing attack plus speed is Boasted by Deoxys only...special attack is great but uber special walls are common,so surprising them with physical moves coul win you a match you normally couldn't.
Though Deoxys lack of physical moves means it can't do much with being unique...Superpower ends all Blisseys with out a choice band...;]
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Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:12 pm |
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/vXv\
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:45 pm Posts: 829 Location: In a Secret Hideout
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At form deoxyes doesn't need tons of moves
Mine is pretty good with
Drain Punch
Extreme speed
Aerial ace
Zen headbutt
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Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:41 am |
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KOL40
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Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:41 pm Posts: 728 Location: Atlanta, on a never ending quest to find wifi opponents...
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Ryu wrote: Balance Deoxys is not worth trying to use.It MIGHT survive a hit attack Deoxys couldn't take but its not a good revenge killer like its latter.
Me personally I would run a Attack Deoxys with max attack,[31 iv attack,adamant nature,252 ev attack]plus max speed iv and evs..why?its amazing attack plus speed is Boasted by Deoxys only...special attack is great but uber special walls are common,so surprising them with physical moves coul win you a match you normally couldn't.
Though Deoxys lack of physical moves means it can't do much with being unique...Superpower ends all Blisseys with out a choice band...;]
You were doing okay up until these two...balance deoxys is not usable AT ALL. In ubers, attack deoxys is gonna be OHKO'ed by just about anything because of how extremely powerful those pokes are. Balance deoxys goes from definant OHKO's to MAAAAYBE 2HKO's. BUT, there will be a SIGNIFIGANT drop in power from atk to bal that won't be worth it.
Also adamant is bad. Go with +ATK - (one of the DEF). The reason is that you can throw on a really strong special attack that will hit hard and make him mixed (which is better overall). Also a big WUT to blissey with a choice band?
Whats up with psypokes wanting blissey to get a choice band???
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Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:55 pm |
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Ryu
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:53 pm Posts: 174 Location: California,Baldwin Park?U.S.A?
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I meant Attack Deoxys can kill a Blissey max hp and max defense with one super power...[Without choiceband]You still need to invest in attack evs but its worth it since not many pokes can do this.
Choice band Blissey...???????Who in their right mind would do that???
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I read that somewhere but I didnt think people were actually serious about it.
Oh thanks for the attack Deoxys
Advice...I never really thought about it.
Yeah me too.I would never try to use balance Deoxys in a Uber battle,its just that some people like the way it looks in that form so I was a little nice on it and not 2 blunt about it
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Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:12 am |
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shinashu taji
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Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:49 pm Posts: 1196 Location: William McKinley High School. Lima, Ohio.
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Ryu wrote:
Choice band Blissey...???????Who in their right mind would do that???
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I read that somewhere but I didnt think people were actually serious about it.
I know who started that it was a joke, apparently y'all don't understand the concept of one.
As for the form I usually use Attack or Speed, stack a Choice item on them of your choosing and they make great revenge killers, or you can use them to sweep.
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Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:27 pm |
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KOL40
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:41 pm Posts: 728 Location: Atlanta, on a never ending quest to find wifi opponents...
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Ryu wrote: Oh thanks for the attack Deoxys Advice...I never really thought about it.
Yeah i think deoxys can get overheat that would be good for OU but im not sure about the ubers as far as how effective fire is as an attacking type. Would think that on a team with groudon a sunboosted overheat with a lil sp atk investment rips things apart. But he doesn't get overheat...so fire blast.
STAB psycho boost sounds really nice...but psychic generally can't hit much in OU and ubers had a lot of dragons so... :
And finally...Leaf storm...well...deoxys can't learn this so forget it! :p
None of the "drop two stages" options really work...the base 120 moves might be decent though (fire blast/thunder/etc). I know thunder is commonly used against kyogre/ho-oh.
shinashu taji wrote: I know who started that it was a joke, apparently y'all don't understand the concept of one.
Unfunny joke is funny
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Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:58 pm |
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empoleon99
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Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:40 am Posts: 271 Location: NO IDEA!!!!!
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I wanted a deoxys so i put up a tyranitar at lvl 55 on GTS and got a lvl 51 deoxys from japan, which i thought was brilliant, till the mopves were : Extremespeed, Psycho Boost, Superpower and 9insert another 5 PP move which i have forgotten at this time)
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