It is currently Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:36 am



Reply to topic  [ 1449 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58  Next
 Creative Movesets *Announcement over DP: see first post* 
Author Message
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher

Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:34 pm
Posts: 3
Post 
ok, thanks anyway =^-^=

*Takes chansey home*


Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:16 pm
Profile
Pokemon Master
Pokemon Master
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:03 am
Posts: 1559
Location: Dragon's Den
Post 
I don't know how one would test this, but here is a Blissey counter:

{gardevoir}@Lefties
Nature - Hasty
EVs: 252 Speed 252 Sp. Att 6HP

Mimic
Toxic
Imprison
Psychic

It's a bit hit and miss really, one starts off with Toxic to lower their HP, and as soon as the pink blob uses Softboiled, use Mimic to steal it. THen use Imprison. Toxic will wittle away its health, and it will be unable to Toxic you or recover. Nor will it be able to attack you with Seismic Toss (well it can) as you can recover away the damage with Softboiled that you mimicked (sp?) Psychic will take it out hopefully with the added poison effect.

Thanks for reading!

_________________
Image

"Play with fire and expect to be burned."


Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:14 pm
Profile
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am
Posts: 603
Location: ...wuszat?
Post 
It may look good, but it's missing a huge detail. A Blissey would usually have two healing moves: Softboiled and Aromatherapy or Heal Bell. It also has Natural Cure as an Ability. If you took away Blissey's Softboiled with Imprison, it can still Aromatherapy/Heal Bell the Toxic away. If you Imprison the other move, you've got Softboiled and Natural Cure to deal with. Psychic will do very little damage, too. With Blissey's amazing HP and Special Defense, this will have very little effect. To put the answer easily, no, it won't work.

_________________
Image


Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:55 pm
Profile
Pokemon Master
Pokemon Master
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:03 am
Posts: 1559
Location: Dragon's Den
Post 
Damn. Oh well, thanks for having a look! I'll go and find another imprisoning, mimicking/softboiling skill swapping Poke. Thanks Tiger.

EDIT: Good idea, I think it's original.

Linoone @Choice Band
Nature Adamant?
252 Atk 252 Spd 6 HP

Trick
Toxic
Headbutt/Shadow Ball/Return
Belly Drum

Modus Operandi – Ideally, this should be used against something that likes to power up, that will underestimate Linoone, believing it to be a chance to boost the stats. For example, going up against a Calm Mind Blissey will allow it to use Trick, so that it will only be able to boost, rather than attack. This will allow you to Belly Drum (even if it switches out, it will be okay, though baton passed speed would help a lot here.)

Return for power, Headbutt for the flinch, and Shadow Ball if you think the opponent may have something that will be able to resist it (though there aren’t many Ubers that have a resistance to Normal, or at least, not that I can see.)
Toxic is there in case something goes wrong, and (again Baton Passed speed would be nice) it would be good to Poison the opponent before you go. However, this wouldn't work against a Blissey in that case, and could easily switched for the Shadow Ball.

_________________
Image

"Play with fire and expect to be burned."


Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:38 am
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:37 pm
Posts: 103
Location: i am a dragonite,were do you think
Post ft
what about this
{magneton} item magnet
zapcannon
lockon
protect
thunder
OR
{tyranitar} leftover
toxic/shadow ball
EQ/scaryface
flamethrower/icebeam
drgon claw/hyper beam

_________________
<img src="http://www.vilhjalmur.com/butterfree/yadragonite.jpg" alt="I am a Dragonite!" title="Find out what Pokémon you are at The Cave of Dragonflies"> Image


Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:05 pm
Profile
Lite Four
Lite Four
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am
Posts: 3835
Location: Singapore
Post 
Lock On + Zap Cannon isn't a particularly good strategy for competitive battling, because the foe can simply anticipate a deadly move upon your usage of Lock On, and switch accordingly. As for Tyranitar, a sweeper moveset isn't much of a creative set, so I'll say no to both, unless tiger10x or another rater has a different opinion. Good effort nonetheless.

_________________
ImageImage


Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:58 am
Profile
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am
Posts: 603
Location: ...wuszat?
Post 
We must have skipped over the Linoone edit somehow. Anyway, it's not all that original; I've seen Linoone being used with Trick multiple times. Commonly, it would have Extremespeed to go with Belly Drum, too. Anyway, it's basically one of those variation sets that isn't usually mentioned widely. It's not entirely a strategy of its own to be significant enough, but I'd probably do something if it could learn Extremespeed and Trick on the same set. (NYPC/Box vs breeding)

As for Magneton and Tyranitar, I pretty much agree with sN0wBaLL.

_________________
Image


Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:11 am
Profile
Pokemon Ranger
Pokemon Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:27 pm
Posts: 920
Location: Canada
Post 
My first try at this let's see how it goes.

{crobat}@Bright Powder
~Toxic
~Double Team
~Fly
~Confuse Ray

{sceptile}@Salac Berry
~Endeavor
~Endure
~Leaf Blade
~Counter

{typhlosion}@Salac Berry
~Reversal
~Endure
~Rest
~Flame Thrower

_________________
Image



Pokemon Pearl FC:2749 9225 9473

Up for a battle anytime! Just PM me.


Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:51 pm
Profile
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am
Posts: 603
Location: ...wuszat?
Post 
Crobat: Toxic strategies with Crobat aren't that creative, and this would be a variation of the standard.

Sceptile: There have been some relatively recent similar sets for Sceptile (albeit Counter, but that doesn't make a huge difference), and the response to those could be found about a page or two back.

Typhlosion: What's the use of restoring your health when you have Endure and Reversal? (Thunderpunch or something else over Rest) Anyway, I'm not entirely sure about whether to include this. With the change, it would then be special sweeping with Endure and Reversal. I'm leaning towards "no," but maybe you or someone else could convince me otherwise. :? (by changing something)

_________________
Image


Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:23 pm
Profile
Pokemon Ranger
Pokemon Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:27 pm
Posts: 920
Location: Canada
Post 
Thinking of a Pokemon that had good HP and Massive Defensive stats so here is what I came up with.

{meganium}@Leftovers
~Substitute
~Leech Seed
~Double Team
~Grass Whistle

{kingdra}@Lum Berry
~Flail
~Rain Dance
~Endure
~Surf

And that Typhlosion set only had Rest there just incase as opponent who was still faster came along or in a desperate situation. Not sure whether the Meganium or Kindra set has been done before.

_________________
Image



Pokemon Pearl FC:2749 9225 9473

Up for a battle anytime! Just PM me.


Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:13 pm
Profile
Illiterate
Illiterate

Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:00 pm
Posts: 261
Location: Columbia
Post 
About pokemaniacs meganium: In the BF there is a meganium wich is exactly the same; it certainly works (you have no idea how hard is to beat her) so it totally deserves to be included in the hall of fame in my opinion.

Has a tanky moveset for metagross been tested?

Metagross Lefties. Impish nature
252HP 100 Def 152Sp def
-Iron defence
-Light screen
-Rest
-Meteor mash

A decent tank and sweeper, meteor mash will hit hard many things, impish is for the nasty EQ weakness and metagross only has a -not very common-special weakness, so this set could work.

_________________

In nomine....Diabulus et...Belial, Satan, Astharoth, Lucifer et Yahve.


Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:56 pm
Profile
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am
Posts: 603
Location: ...wuszat?
Post 
Oh wow, I must have skipped over this thread again... and again. :roll:


Meganium: There's a new drainer set planned, and I'll be dealing with this type of stuff shortly.

Kingdra: That one's been discussed a few pages back as well, maybe longer ago. I think I added it as a standard, but you can just search the thread if you want more info.

Metagross: Same with Meganium (although obviously not a draining Metagross).

_________________
Image


Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:45 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher

Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:41 am
Posts: 2
DON'T ASK ME WHY I CHOSE THESE MOVES, CAUSE I THINK THEY WORK!!


{sceptile} LAXED NATURE
LEAF BLADE
TOXIC
SCREECH/AGILITY
ARIEAL ACE

{blaziken} DOICLIED/TIMID NATURE
BLAZE KICK
FLAMETHROWER/FIRE BLAST/FIRE PUNCH
BRICK BREAK/ MIRROR MOVE
SKY-UPPER-CUT

{swampert} ADMANANT NATURE
MUDDY WATER
HYDRO PUMP
EARTQUAKE
ICE BEAM/SURF


Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:31 am
Profile
Pokemon Master
Pokemon Master
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:23 pm
Posts: 1959
Location: Va
Post 
NO ONE WILL ASK YOU WHY, BECAUSE THEY WON'T WORK.

_________________
Image Image
^Image by dragoni_slayer2014^


Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:51 am
Profile
Lite Four
Lite Four
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am
Posts: 3835
Location: Singapore
Post 
Just because they work for you might not mean anything, for, like we've said before many times before, this thread is looking for creativity in addition to movesets which work well. Your three submitted sets are all kinda standard.

_________________
ImageImage


Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:30 am
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:37 pm
Posts: 103
Location: i am a dragonite,were do you think
Post ft
what about this team of four

{blissey} leftovers
softboiled
psychic
metronome
toxic
{metagross} none
meteor mash
EQ
shadow ball
arial ace
{gengar} none
giga drian
toxic
sludge bomb
shadow ball
{cacturne} none
toxic
giga drain
leech seed
sandstorm

_________________
<img src="http://www.vilhjalmur.com/butterfree/yadragonite.jpg" alt="I am a Dragonite!" title="Find out what Pokémon you are at The Cave of Dragonflies"> Image


Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:11 pm
Profile
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am
Posts: 603
Location: ...wuszat?
Post 
superwill_925: Those movesets aren't entirely creative nor would they be particularly effective. If you were looking for them to be actually rated, go to either the Hoenn or Sinnoh rating center (depending on what they were meant for).

_________________
Image


Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:08 pm
Profile
Ace Trainer
Ace Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:10 pm
Posts: 421
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow.
Post 
Konichiwa, what anout an annoyer mismagious,

MISMAGIOUS@jolly@leftovers@(F)
1:confuse ray
2:thunder wave
3:attract
4:will-o-wisp
EVS: 252:HP 129:DEF 129:SP.DEF

While bieng a standard annoyer, It's not what you would expect from mismagious, at least I dont think you would...attract, confuse, then choose. Parylize if you need some time to heal, and burn if your feeling aggressive.

Double battle team with her works pretty well too, only change is attract for shadow ball. Also use...

TOGEKISS@jolly@leftovers@(F)
1:attract
2:follow me
3:sweet kiss
4:Aerial ace
EVS: 252:SPEED 252:HP 6:DEF/SP.DEF(your choice)

A new twist (I think)

Attract both of the opposing pokemon, then follow me like crazy while mismagious confuses the enemies in order to prevent them from attacking!
Parylize themboth unless thier ground, then burn them. Shadow claw while togekiss gets them to follow her. I think this strategy is fool proof, as nobody uses a pokemon with oblivious too often (not to my knowledge at least)and as long as they dont die while you set up, everything falls into place. If you wanted to replace aerial ace with metronome, you could, but I would keep aerial ace.

_________________
Image
0430 4871 6548
I'm an official Diamond/Pearl rater! PM me for a rate!
If you need rescuing, PM me, I do it for free!


Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:01 am
Profile WWW
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am
Posts: 603
Location: ...wuszat?
Post 
Okay, I might as well make this announcement now because it finally got more significant. :?

The Creative Movesets topic will not be accepting DP Pokemon until there is an available easy testing program (Competitor). Until then, feel free to post your DP stuff, but it will not be commented on immediately. All submissions will be directly compared to the DP Standards in my recent guide.

(You can also still post Adv stuff, and that would have a higher priority than DP at the moment)

Alkhazor: I'll check out your post later (days). :?

_________________
Image


Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:42 pm
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:20 pm
Posts: 147
Location: RI
Post 
Old Pokemon with D/P move.

{shuckle}@ Lefties
Sturdy

EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Spd
Impish?
~Power Trick
~Double Team
~Toxic/Rest
~EQ/other attack move


Idk how creative that is, but meh.

Double Team 6 times. Rest. Power Trick. Rape. If they miss you, they're screwed. 600 attack doesn't exactly tickle.

_________________
Up for battles...Pm me...Diamond FC: 2363 2103 6074


I don't really use a team. I just mix and match the Pokemon I have trained.


Last edited by Yoshipal13 on Tue May 15, 2007 3:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.



Mon May 14, 2007 5:43 pm
Profile WWW
Ace Trainer
Ace Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:41 am
Posts: 338
Post 
I got one...

Bronzong@leftovers
impish|252 def 129 spdef 129 atk
heatproof
~gyro ball
~earthquake
~imprison
~curse (learnable?)/toxic

Well, the only "creative" part would have to be imprison/earthquake, cuz earthquake is about the only ground move people use, and ground is his only weakness if he has heatproof. I really hope he can learn curse...

_________________
Pearl Friend Code:055932661237 - CJB in game

255 is the true devil's number.

typhlosion blaze wrote:
Wait, the guy who made this topic plays runescape? So 3rd grade.

From my "Stupid Insults" thread, where people tell eachother how people insulted them in a hilariously stupid manner, how ironic!


Tue May 15, 2007 6:22 am
Profile WWW
Ace Trainer
Ace Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:52 am
Posts: 330
Location: Saturn!
Post 
Bronzong can't learn Curse. Neither can Bronzor...

On an unrelated note...w00t! 600th post!

_________________
My Random Pokémon Generator


Tue May 15, 2007 1:32 pm
Profile
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am
Posts: 603
Location: ...wuszat?
Post 
Well, I admit I forgot about this topic. :?

Mismagius and Togekiss: I didn't realize this was meant to be a double battle thing before. Maybe you could post it in the 2v2 guide for that hall of fame, but I would assume that that would be in the same state as this regarding DP and testing stuff.

Shuckle: I've read about this strategy and even messed with these ideas myself. It will not work unless it gets very very lucky with Double Team, and once it's all set up, it will die in one physical hit. Basically, it absolutely relies on Double Team being set up effectively in the beginning, which won't be anything to count on. So, I'd say no.

Bronzong: Saanaito is right about the inability to learn Curse. I guess this can be up for testing later, but to be honest, I don't think it will work very well.

_________________
Image


Tue May 15, 2007 6:51 pm
Profile
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:33 pm
Posts: 1578
Location: Wisconsin
Post 
Well, I'll take a crack at being creative with my favorite pokemon, Registeel.

{registeel}@Wide Lens/Wise Glasses ; Quiet nature
-Flash Cannon
-Hyper Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast
EV's: Sp. Atk-252 :: HP-168 :: Def-90

Here it is, a Sp. Atk Registeel. All of the moves are special, although Focus Blast is a might bit innaccurate. This is where you must choose to give Reigsteel Wide Lens, which increases accuracy (to help Focus Blast and Hyper Beam hit more often), or to give it Wise Glasses which raise the damage of its special attacks.

I hope this hasn't been attempted before...because of my dial-up, it would take me ages to sift through every page to check and see if this has been attempted yet.

_________________
Image


Fri May 18, 2007 8:15 pm
Profile WWW
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am
Posts: 603
Location: ...wuszat?
Post 
Well, it is creative, but the chances of it ever working are quite low. Maybe something like Charge Beam, and Substitute and/or some way of allowing it to power up effectively first would be better. If you can come up with something better, I'll see what else I can do with it when I can start testing DP stuff.

_________________
Image


Sat May 19, 2007 5:32 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 1449 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by STSoftware for PTF.