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| Author: | sN0wBaLL [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:40 pm ] |
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This thread is more of a deeper level of strategy, and not just for any Pokemon that is powerful, hence the term "creative". While your Mewtwo is indeed quite powerful, it ain't exactly creative, so you might want to try the Rating Center instead. Here's the link: http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~psypoke/for ... 61&start=0 |
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| Author: | PKMNgamer21 [ Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:54 pm ] |
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i had a Tyranitar, heres his MS Tyranitar @ Salac Trait:Sandstorm EVs:252 Everything(took a lot of breeding) Hasty Nature(+Spd) -Crunch -Earthquake -Dragon Dance -T-Bolt Strategy: Use Dragon Dance bout 2-3 times. Then if you lost health and used the Salac Berry, then use Crunch no matter what. It will usually almost always go first and cause of Dragon Dance, Hasty, Salac, and STAB you will be super quick and powerful and will almost always knock out anyone!!! |
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| Author: | Flaming_Wuzzle [ Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:40 pm ] |
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PKMNgamer21 wrote: Tyranitar @ Salac
Trait:Sandstorm EVs:252 Everything(took a lot of breeding) Hasty Nature(+Spd) -Crunch -Earthquake -Dragon Dance -T-Bolt Congrats, your breeding* skills are so great that you are doing something which is clearly impossible. 
* by breeding, I mean gamesharking |
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| Author: | PKMNgamer21 [ Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:47 pm ] |
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im not lying, i also gave him the stat boosting items, come on dont call me a liar. |
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| Author: | tiger10x [ Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:57 pm ] |
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I believe that this should be worth posting: http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~psypoke/lab/evguide.php And, I was thinking of something:  @ SalacLiechi
AdamantJolly / Intimidate EV's: 252 Attack; 252 Speed; 6 HP - Dragon Dance - Flail - Endure - HP Ghost Up your attack and speed and when you think you'll die, use Endure/Flail. |
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| Author: | Lynx [ Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:07 pm ] |
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believe it or not, that actually isnt a "creative" moveset, its just not the most common one.... as for the t-tar moveset, thats basically a boah with a few modifications |
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| Author: | Flaming_Wuzzle [ Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:17 pm ] |
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PKMNgamer21 wrote: im not lying, i also gave him the stat boosting items, come on dont call me a liar. Care to explain how you're getting 252 EVs in each stat (1512 EVs total) when the total EVs possible is 510, just over a thousand less than what you apparently have? |
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| Author: | PKMNgamer21 [ Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:03 am ] |
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i kept breeding till the Larvitar had equal stats in everything, oh yea, i kinda got the Virus PokeRus that hekkped me out alot, and i also gave him Iron, Calcium, etc. |
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| Author: | sN0wBaLL [ Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:18 am ] |
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I think you are under the false impression that you can have lots of EVs (i.e. 252 in each stat), but the fact is that you can only have a maximum of 510 EVs gained (in total). |
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| Author: | PKMNgamer21 [ Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:10 am ] |
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whatever, mayb i got glitch, idk, i just got lucky, my game i bought at GameStop, but i did find a few glitches, like if i had 2 health left, and they used STAB to help them, i still had 1 health left. |
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| Author: | Yumecosmos [ Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:49 am ] |
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Heh... I'm kind of new at this, but I wanted to try. ^_^ So, as usual, there are probably a lot of mistakes. Ninjask @ Lefties Lonely/Speed Boost EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP Moves: Swords Dance, Substitute, Giga Drain, Double-Edge I figure, most people see Ninjask and think Baton Passer, so maybe I'd have the element of surprise. Sub so you'll survive, then Swords Dance and Double-Edge. Giga Drain is to recover HP. (Would Rest be a better idea?) EDIT: Oops, I just realized Ninjask is a Hoenn pokemon. You can delete this if you want! ><; |
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| Author: | PsySketcher [ Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:57 pm ] |
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Smergal @ Lefties Lonely/Speed Boost EV's: 252 Speed, 252 HP, 6 whatever Moves: Lockon, Sheer Cold, Mean Look, Recover This is a very KO pokemon. Mean look to keep them from running. The rest explanes itself. Just watch out for a higher level pokemon since instant ko attacks won't work on higher levels. Forgot gotta watch out for fighting type attacks (Bahh just read the smergal listing on page 3, didn't know it was there) |
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| Author: | sN0wBaLL [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:07 am ] |
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Yumecosmos, this thread is not for Kanto Pokemon only, it just happens to be in Kanto Revisited Section 
Your Ninjask is fine, but a physical move might be better than Giga Drain, since your Ninjask knows Swords Dance. Not the most creative, but some alternative form of using Ninjask nonetheless. As for Smeargle, we don't consider any Smeargle set to be creative, simply because Smeargle can learn any move. Sorry about that. |
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| Author: | JsXtm [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:26 am ] |
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Actually, Snowball, I think it looks good as it is. he's got Double Edge, which exploits the swords dance, and then uses Giga Drain to get back what he lost to recoil. If you can think of a physical draining attack, then that'd obviously be better, but I can't think of any. |
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| Author: | Swampert King [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:56 am ] |
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The only phisical one is Leech Life, which it can learn, but... whith 10 power, it kinda sucks... |
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| Author: | sN0wBaLL [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:08 am ] |
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Wouldn't it be better to not use Double Edge in the first place? With two other physical attacks to replace DE and Giga Drain, then relying on Leftovers to heal, seems more effective (but not really much more creative) to me. |
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| Author: | =D~unplugged~ [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:37 pm ] |
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How about this Bellossom: Bellossom @ Salac Adamant | Chlorophyll EVs: 252 Spd 129 Atk 129 Def Swords Dance Substitute Sunny Day Flail / Sludgebomb / Double Edge First, Substitute, then Sunny Day to get the Chlorophyll boost. Swords Dance, Then pick the attack of your choice. After a few Substitutes or the Double Edge recoil, get the Salac boost. How's that? |
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| Author: | sN0wBaLL [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:32 am ] |
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Pretty good, I guess. I just feel that Sunny Day tempts the opponent to switch to a Fire type. Also, having a single offensive move is kinda risky. For instance, if you only have Sludge Bomb, your opponent can just switch to a Steel type or something, and you'll become kinda powerless. With the low HP you have due to Subtitution, you would thus be vulnerable to the opponent. Good enough for the test list I guess, but testing is only going to resume in a few weeks time (I'm working on getting additional testers currently; please be patient.) |
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| Author: | Cless [ Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:09 am ] |
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tiger10x wrote: I believe that this should be worth posting:
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~psypoke/lab/evguide.php And, I was thinking of something: @ SalacLiechi
AdamantJolly / Intimidate EV's: 252 Attack; 252 Speed; 6 HP - Dragon Dance - Flail - Endure - HP Ghost Up your attack and speed and when you think you'll die, use Endure/Flail. This really can work if you don't meet Jolteon/Starmie, but after they're gone, this set has some serious late game sweeping potential. Go with Liechi Berry btw since you'll have enough speed after 2 Dragon Dances. Steelix pretty much **** up this set, it will probably Roar you away. But meh, every pogey has his counters right? This set really has some potential if you ask me. |
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| Author: | sN0wBaLL [ Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:56 pm ] |
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Sure, I'll add it to the test list (after consideration, of course). Lynx was saying it wasn't really creative, but I think it's good enough even though it's not the most creative 
Oh, and new raters/testers are gonna arrive soon
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| Author: | Omanlew [ Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:40 pm ] |
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Someone test my  espeon
@modest with lefties
Physic Sunny day Flamethrower/fireblast Morning sun |
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| Author: | sN0wBaLL [ Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:55 pm ] |
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Firstly, Physics is a subject you learn in school. It's a Science subject. It's Psychic. Secondly, Espeon can't learn Flamethrower, nor can it learn Fire Blast. |
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| Author: | Kayane [ Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:31 am ] |
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Omanlew wrote: Someone test my espeon
@modest with lefties
Physic Sunny day Flamethrower/fireblast Morning sun I'm new at this, but I'll give it a shot. -Espeon can't learn Fire Blast/ Flamethrower. -Get rid of Sunny Day: @ Rash with Leftovers (Rash boosts Sp. Attack for the Psychic moves, but lowers Sp. Defense)
-Calm Mind -Psychic -Toxic -Double-Edge Use Toxic to Poison, Calm Mind to boost Psychic attacks. Then use Double Edge and Leftovers recover the recoil damage. Alternately: @ Modest with TwistedSpoon (Modest works well because it boosts Sp. Attack, but lowers Attack)
-Sunny Day -Morning Sun -Calm Mind -Psychic Sunny Day to boost effects of Morning Sun, Calm Mind to boost effects of Psychic. I hope I did so-so on these. This is my first time testing/rating...^_^ |
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| Author: | Sanctuary [ Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:12 am ] |
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Kayane wrote: Then use Double Edge Espeon lacks the attack stat to use an effective Double Edge |
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| Author: | sN0wBaLL [ Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:47 pm ] |
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By the way, Kayane is one of the new testers for the Creative Movesets Thread, along with Truestar and Skytune. They will begin testing the huge stack of movesets in the Test List, so all those who have refrained from posting due to the lack of active testers previously are welcome to come back and have a go at the Hall of Fame again 8) PS: Check you PMs, Kayane
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