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Chimaerax Ace Trainer Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:08 pm Posts: 347 Location: Good Ol' USA	rate me party just started playin pokemon in a long time, new to gold/silver and not sure about movesets: umbreon @ miracleberry mean look toxic curse baton pass zapdos @ brightpowder thunderwave thunderbolt hidden power (ice) light screen entei @ charcoal(not sure of a better item) sunny day solar beam flamethrower roar (any suggestions for replacing?) suicune @ nevermeltice surf ice beam mirror coat mist (or rain dance or sumthing else?) steelix @ leftovers earthquake rock slide (or iron tail idk which is better?) sandstorm crunch lugia @ twisted spoon safeguard recover psychic aeroblast im at a loss for better items but i dont wanna have duplicate items on diff pokemon (stadium 2 vs.) and am open to suggestions about better moves. thx guys.
Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:33 pm

stitemeister Bug Catcher Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:04 am Posts: 6	@Leftovers Mean Look Toxic Curse/Double Team Baton Pass standard, this is. @Miiracle Berry Reflect Drill Peck Thunderbolt Thunderwave/Steel Wing You could use HP ice if you could get it... by all means, but otherwise. Steel wing is there for ice and rock types zapdos is dreading. @Bright Powder Return Sunny Day Flamethrower Solar Beam Standard. Return would feed off entei's awesome attack. @Focus Band Surf Mirror Coat Roar Rest Leftovers usually here, but i think focus band would also work well with focus band and roar. You have rest to back it up too. @Quick Claw Explosion Earthquake Rock Slide Curse I always used quick claw over leftovers for steelix. I just didn't like leftovers due to steelix's poor special defense. Godly defense though. However, it ties well with curse, rock slide and explosion. It could flinch, disregard the speed decrease, and first strike opportunity with explosion before it faints. Somehow it just works wonders for me. @Mint Berry Rest Aeroblast Earthquake Curse Standard cursegia... usually leftovers on this, but since you don't want double items. I think leftovers would be more needed by umbreon. I really don't recommend you using oobers and legendaries... it just takes the fun away from the game.
Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:18 pm

RaichuLatias Pokemon Master Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:50 pm Posts: 1205 Location: Southern Island	Pretty good rate stitemeister, just a couple of things I wanted to add. Since Mean Look is on there I think you should put Swagger over Baton Pass for trapping purposes. Works, but you could try Ice Beam over Roar, since Surf may not cover enough types. Why Rest? It can learn Recover! Recover is better than Rest. _________________
Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:44 pm

stitemeister Bug Catcher Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:04 am Posts: 6	Quote: Pretty good rate stitemeister, just a couple of things I wanted to add. Since Mean Look is on there I think you should put Swagger over Baton Pass for trapping purposes. Umm... Why would you put swagger? I know it ties well with curse and mean look, but the purpose of baton pass is to give the stat boost to umbreon's team mates. Plus, you would also pass mean look, which would give you control over the game. Personally I do prefer double team over curse... Works, but you could try Ice Beam over Roar, since Surf may not cover enough types. I put roar because the team does not have any hazers. Also in case you come across a mean looker yourself. But you could put ice beam, that would be okay. Why Rest? It can learn Recover! Recover is better than Rest. I know recover is better,, but I put rest over recover, because lugia is very prone to stat altering moves(PRZ, Toxic). Besides, after a couple of curses, within the two turns you waste on rest, I highly doubt that anything would be able hurt this thing anyway.
Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:00 pm

RaichuLatias Pokemon Master Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:50 pm Posts: 1205 Location: Southern Island	stitemeister wrote: Pretty good rate stitemeister, just a couple of things I wanted to add. Since Mean Look is on there I think you should put Swagger over Baton Pass for trapping purposes. Umm... Why would you put swagger? I know it ties well with curse and mean look, but the purpose of baton pass is to give the stat boost to umbreon's team mates. Plus, you would also pass mean look, which would give you control over the game. Personally I do prefer double team over curse... {umbreon} doesn't make that good of a passer, since it's speed is just okay, but it could work. Umbreons are usally used as a trapper, Jolteon and Espeon work well as passers. There was also an old set I remember, @ Leftovers Swagger/Confuse Ray Toxic/Body Slam Double Team Curse The strategy is to start with Swagger/Confuse Ray, than Toxic/Body Slam, followed by Double Team and Curse. Curse and D-Team are used mostly when you think the opponent will switch. _________________
Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:14 pm

stitemeister Bug Catcher Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:04 am Posts: 6	I have to disagree actually... Umbreon is a great baton passer, since he's one of the only three in the game who can baton pass a meam look/spider web (Ariados and Smeargle are the other two). For instance, if you come across a grass type and you get to trap it, you may be able to pass your mean look to, let's say, a scizor and start setting up. He's a great trapper, but he's even greater when he can actually share his trapping ability to his team mates. It's true that jollteon and espeon has good speed and will probably be able to increase stat then baton pass quickly, that is provided they don't faint after one to two turns. But if you want to pass double team, he's you're guy since he is hard to put down and rarely goes down in one blow or even dented.
Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:29 am

Chimaerax Ace Trainer Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:08 pm Posts: 347 Location: Good Ol' USA	thx for the rate stite edited team: @ leftovers mean look toxic curse (still wanna raise stats of switched sweeper and its a tank so it can live w/o d-team) baton pass @ Miracle Berry Reflect T-wave Thunderbolt HP Ice (its at 70 power i think) @ Bright Powder Return Sunny Day Flamethrower Solar Beam @ Focus Band Rest Surf Icebeam Mirror Coat @ Quick Claw Earthquake Rock Slide Crunch (idk dont have much against psychic powerhouses and i can always baton pass the curse from umbreon) Explosion @ Mint Berry Rest Earthquake Aeroblast Curse regarding the : the reason i didnt put any real attack on it is cuz its attack stats are dead abysmal. body slam would only be effective for inflicting possible 30% paralysis, but toxic wouldnt make that possible, anyway. its def stats tho are amazing so i use as a tank to take the first hits if an opponent switches and control the game by baton passing the mean look to a type advantage. sry bout using the 00bers. ill try to find replacements for suicune and lugia (sticking with entei cuz the sunny day-solar beam thing is only found in ho-oh and houdoom and i dont want another dark pokemon, and zapdos i finally got hp to be a strong ice move)
Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:58 pm

kyret Bug Catcher Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:59 pm Posts: 11	i had a team almost identical to that one well not the movsets but i think wat has been said looks better than wat i had
Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:09 pm

The Champ Dragon Tamer Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:26 pm Posts: 123 Location: Michigan	I think you have a damn good team better than mine. _________________
Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:20 pm

Mr. Saturn Ace Trainer Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:09 pm Posts: 398	Champ, this topic hasn't been posted in for well over a month. If you want to increase your post count, give HELPFUL input in CURRENT topics. Locked to prevent further spam.
Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:38 pm

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